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later, the bipartisan policy center on a talk to talk about options of dealing with the debt ceiling check out c-span studentcam 2013 video documentary competition. the deadline is friday january 28. the grand prize is $5000. >> i welcome all of you here today. on behalf of the gerald ford school of public policy, university of michigan is honored to welcome the honorable ben bernanke, chairman of the board of governors. today's conversation is in a series of distinguished lectures at the school. we are pleased to produce today's events and to have have president mary sue coleman with us. i would like to welcome all of them and thank them for joining us today. it is an honor and truly a personal pleasure for me to introduce our special guest. the charge is to promote a healthy economy and a complex and critically important mission. german ben bernanke was first appointed as the chair in 2006 and he has served in that role during the most challenging time for monetary and financial policy since the great depression. the financial crisis, the great recession, slow recovery with the evo
later, the bipartisan policy center on a talk to talk about options of dealing with the debt ceiling check out c-span studentcam 2013 video documentary competition. the deadline is friday january 28. the grand prize is $5000. >> i welcome all of you here today. on behalf of the gerald ford school of public policy, university of michigan is honored to welcome the honorable ben bernanke, chairman of the board of governors. today's conversation is in a series of distinguished lectures at the...
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authorize an increase in the debt ceiling so we can pay our bills. that is the right way to do it. i think that is what will eventually happen. i do not think that going off in the other direction would really be helpful. >> hello chairman bernanke. i am a second year mpp. second question from the audience, does the debt ceiling still have a practical are busy and could it be in limited without much consequence? >> no, it does not really have -- it has symbolic value, i guess area. no other country, i believe, have this particular institution. just so everybody understands what it is, the congress appropriate $100, tells the government to spend $100 on whatever. then it raises $80 in revenue through its tax code. the arithmetic care -- you have got to borrow $20. no, the congress has to give a third rule which says that 100 - 80 equals 20. if the congress is approving spending and taxing, and they are not equal, then logically, there has to be something to make up the difference. that is borrowing. i am not saying that visits and deaths are a good thing thing. not at all. the way t
authorize an increase in the debt ceiling so we can pay our bills. that is the right way to do it. i think that is what will eventually happen. i do not think that going off in the other direction would really be helpful. >> hello chairman bernanke. i am a second year mpp. second question from the audience, does the debt ceiling still have a practical are busy and could it be in limited without much consequence? >> no, it does not really have -- it has symbolic value, i guess area....
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. >> sir, you voted for the deal, but you have also said you wouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling. are you still firm on that? congressman yoho, can you hear me? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was saying, yeah, you have said that you will not vote to raise the debt ceiling, however you did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. do you still stand firm on the debt ceiling position? >> we, no, sir, i didn't vote for the fiscal cliff deal. i wasn't sworn in yet. but it's like we've said -- >> you said you wouldn't vote for it, if it were you. >> right. i agree. i did not say that, but i didn't vote that way. we've raised the debt ceiling seven times, and it hasn't resolved the problem. the only thing it's done is made us go more in dead. president obama yet on his news conference said raising the debt ceiling will not raise our debt ceiling. all we've raised the debt, we have to may more interest. that in it/will increase the spending. we have a spending problem in this country. that's what we need to address. >> what is your biggest bone of content with john boehner? you've been very public about
. >> sir, you voted for the deal, but you have also said you wouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling. are you still firm on that? congressman yoho, can you hear me? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i was saying, yeah, you have said that you will not vote to raise the debt ceiling, however you did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. do you still stand firm on the debt ceiling position? >> we, no, sir, i didn't vote for the fiscal cliff deal. i wasn't sworn in yet. but it's like we've...
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at one point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting discussion or at least a lot less leverage. >> bill: the other big topic, the only other topic actually raised at the news conference yesterday other than whether or not you elect a party, president likes to have a party. was the issue of guns where the president was not specific because he hasn't seen -- or wasn't ready to list all of the recommendations that may have come out of the biden task force. but the president did express and repeat his resolve to do something about this issue of gun violence. no doubt about that, was there? >> no. while he put off getting into the details a little bit, he
at one point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting...
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should be the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution to fund the government or sequestration? caller: the continuing revolution to keep the government going -- resolution. there are many departments we don't need. i was showing my grandchildr the debt clock, telling him how much money he would know when he becomes a taxpayer. he said he does not want to become a taxpayer. this is taxation without representation. they have to get this under control. they need a dyiet. host: jason is a democratic caller in brooklyn, new york. caller: i think the debt is negotiable. it has been high before. host: what did you say? caller: it ought to be negotiable. i think obama needs to the finish his job. spending programs for poor neighborhoods and give other people a chance in this country. the tea party and right-wing republicans, it is obvious they are racist and nobody wants to work with them. in the next four years they have to get it right, because asians, hispanics, and african-americans make up the majority of this country now. so they had better get it right. host: the new york times
should be the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution to fund the government or sequestration? caller: the continuing revolution to keep the government going -- resolution. there are many departments we don't need. i was showing my grandchildr the debt clock, telling him how much money he would know when he becomes a taxpayer. he said he does not want to become a taxpayer. this is taxation without representation. they have to get this under control. they need a dyiet. host: jason is a...
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find thousands of big deals now... at officemax. >>> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> well, mr. president, it all depends on who you are talking about. radical republican lawmakers are ready to really trample all over american citizens in order just to get what they want. the republican crusade on the debt ceiling will harm all of these folks. let's go through them tonight. anyone on social security. that means if you're on social security and you live on that fixed income, you won't get the check. how about veterans. i thought -- you know, this is what confuses me. veterans and troops. i always thought the republicans supported the troops. remember those signs "we support the troops"? maybe not anymore. if you're a business owner, the government may default on your loan. that's right. right here. you need that money to continue to meet payroll. of course, that will certainly hurt employment in this country. and that's really what the republicans like. do you have a mor
find thousands of big deals now... at officemax. >>> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> well, mr. president, it all depends on who you are talking about. radical republican lawmakers are ready to really trample all over american citizens in order just to get what they want. the republican crusade on the debt ceiling will harm all of these folks. let's go through...
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supposed to do and needs to do and authorize an increase in the debt ceiling soon compare our debts and bills . that is the right way to do it. and the i think that is what will eventually happen, but i don't think that going off in another direction would really be all that talk -- all that helpful. >> hello, chairman bernanke. i am a second year in pp at the force cool and studying for a graduate certificate in science and technology. second question from the audience, does the debt ceiling of a practical purpose? could it be eliminated without much consequence? >> does what have? >> the debt ceiling. >> it does not really have. it has symbolic value i guess, but no other country, i believe, maybe one or two other, but no other countries in the world have this particular institution . to so everyone understands what is, the congress appropriates $100, tells the government to spend $100 on whenever and then it raises $80 in revenue through its tax code. now, the arithmetic here sort of says, you have to borrow $20. shephard -- the congress has to give a third rule. if the congress is a
supposed to do and needs to do and authorize an increase in the debt ceiling soon compare our debts and bills . that is the right way to do it. and the i think that is what will eventually happen, but i don't think that going off in another direction would really be all that talk -- all that helpful. >> hello, chairman bernanke. i am a second year in pp at the force cool and studying for a graduate certificate in science and technology. second question from the audience, does the debt...
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ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and prioritizing, there's 80 million payment accounts. i know the interest on the debt will be paid, but to some extent the gop has got to watch itself, robert. they could come really at the wrong end of a massive public relations blunder. >> that's exactly right, larry. the president's press conference today really was first battle in this public relations war. what matters is that the president is out there for an hour, making his case to the american people. what the republicans need to do a better job is making their case. now, it's easy to poin
ceiling which tends to be popular. people -- you know, the american public, they hear debt ceiling and they think no, let's not do that. that sounds awful to give government more money to spend. he's trying to turn it around. but it absolutely is a dynamic that he exemplploited when he w senator. >> robert costa, let's look at this for a minute. republicans have a tricky situation. because the country does not want us to default. and this whole business of managing accounts and...
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what we deal with is -- technically, we should have passed the debt ceiling at the beginning of the year but we were able to extend the period and the treasury says -- at least by march, sometime in march, they will need authority from congress to borrow more money. >> how are republicans in congress reacting to the comments? >> republicans in the house side are just getting into town and they will disappear for their political retreat. senate republicans are not scheduled to be in this week. i know from following twitter and following the reaction from speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell they didn't agree with his comments and expect to pass legislation on the house side and passing legislation for the debt ceiling and the spending issue, as they see it. >> is any of this complimented by tim geithner being eager to exit his post. >> this is about the president and what he wants. jack lewis is a former office of managment and budget director and he knows these issues. and they've been through this before in summer 2011. i don't think geithner's exit effects it either way. >> david drucke
what we deal with is -- technically, we should have passed the debt ceiling at the beginning of the year but we were able to extend the period and the treasury says -- at least by march, sometime in march, they will need authority from congress to borrow more money. >> how are republicans in congress reacting to the comments? >> republicans in the house side are just getting into town and they will disappear for their political retreat. senate republicans are not scheduled to be in...
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ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents. number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >>steve: there you've got the president, back then senator, back in the day saying that president of ours, he's running up the bills, and it would be unpatriotic what he's doing. and we cannot raise the debt limit. forward to his administration, and i think this is going to be the fourth time he has asked cong
ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents....